# working of Order Status request (35=H) **URL:** \ **Category:** General Q&A\ **Tags:** fix-semantics, imported, xid\_171166\ **Created:** [January 17, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444 "2013-01-17T03:58:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![endlessstream\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@endlessstream\_x](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/endlessstream_x)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/1 "2013-01-17T03:58:13Z")
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**Author:** ![endlessstream\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@endlessstream\_x](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/endlessstream_x)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/2 "2013-01-17T03:58:13Z")
Hi, I referred to FIX order change matrices for this, but it is not quite clear, so I am turning to this forum. My question is what would be the response of Order Status request (35=H) in this scenario: 35=D, clOrdId=1, qty=100 --\> Acked back, leavesQty=100 35=G, clOrdId=2, origClOrdId=1, qty=80 --\> Acked back, leavesQty=80 35=G, clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, qty=60 --\> Acked back, leavesQty=60 Now If I send order status request with clOrdId=1, what will I get back? Is it… clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, leavesQty=60 (or) clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=1, leavesQty=60 or something else. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![adityakapur](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/forum.fixtrading.org/adityakapur/32/179_2.png) [@adityakapur](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/adityakapur)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/3 "2013-01-22T19:55:07Z")
Well it should ideally be 35=H with ClOrdID=3 – there’s no telling what will happen if you reference ClOrdID=1 in 35=H when the latest value is ClOrdID=3. If the counterparty is able to support order chaining such that it recognizes that the ClOrdID value being referenced in the 35=H is stale but is actually part of an order chain then it should be able to give you the latest state of that order in the chain → ClOrdID=3, OrigClOrdID=2, LeavesQty=60. If it does not then it will probably just return something simple like ClOrdID=1, LeavesQty=100 even though that is clearly not valid. > Hi, I referred to FIX order change matrices for this, but it is not quite clear, so I am turning to this forum. > > My question is what would be the response of Order Status request (35=H) in this scenario: > > 35=D, clOrdId=1, qty=100 → > Acked back, leavesQty=100 > > 35=G, clOrdId=2, origClOrdId=1, qty=80 → > Acked back, leavesQty=80 > > 35=G, clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, qty=60 → > Acked back, leavesQty=60 > > Now If I send order status request with clOrdId=1, what will I get back? > Is it… > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, leavesQty=60 > > (or) > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=1, leavesQty=60 > > or something else. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![xavierbruyet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c5a1d2/32.png) [@xavierbruyet](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/xavierbruyet)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/4 "2013-01-23T09:27:10Z")
Replying 35=8|20=3|11=3 could be difficult for the client to know it is the reply to his request 35=H|11=1… Replying 35=8|20=3|11=1 could suggest the order 11=1 is still live… In my opinion we should reject the request 35=8|150=8|103=5 (unknown order [or 4 = too late to enter?]). > Well it should ideally be 35=H with ClOrdID=3 – there’s no telling what will happen if you reference ClOrdID=1 in 35=H when the latest value is ClOrdID=3. > > If the counterparty is able to support order chaining such that it recognizes that the ClOrdID value being referenced in the 35=H is stale but is actually part of an order chain then it should be able to give you the latest state of that order in the chain → ClOrdID=3, OrigClOrdID=2, LeavesQty=60. > > If it does not then it will probably just return something simple like ClOrdID=1, LeavesQty=100 even though that is clearly not valid. > > > Hi, I referred to FIX order change matrices for this, but it is not quite clear, so I am turning to this forum. > > > > My question is what would be the response of Order Status request (35=H) in this scenario: > > > > 35=D, clOrdId=1, qty=100 → > > Acked back, leavesQty=100 > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=2, origClOrdId=1, qty=80 → > > Acked back, leavesQty=80 > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, qty=60 → > > Acked back, leavesQty=60 > > > > Now If I send order status request with clOrdId=1, what will I get back? > > Is it… > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, leavesQty=60 > > > > (or) > > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=1, leavesQty=60 > > > > or something else. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![jaspergrootaers93\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jaspergrootaers93\_x](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/jaspergrootaers93_x)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 9:55am UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/5 "2013-01-23T09:55:32Z")
If you send 35=H|11=1 then there is a case for a reject if there is no order chaining logic on the other side. In my opinion you should always try to send the last 11 value in a 35=H message, this way there is a les of a chance of you getting what could be a duff response. > Replying 35=8|20=3|11=3 could be difficult for the client to know it is the reply to his request 35=H|11=1… > > Replying 35=8|20=3|11=1 could suggest the order 11=1 is still live… > > In my opinion we should reject the request 35=8|150=8|103=5 (unknown order [or 4 = too late to enter?]). > > > Well it should ideally be 35=H with ClOrdID=3 – there’s no telling what will happen if you reference ClOrdID=1 in 35=H when the latest value is ClOrdID=3. > > > > If the counterparty is able to support order chaining such that it recognizes that the ClOrdID value being referenced in the 35=H is stale but is actually part of an order chain then it should be able to give you the latest state of that order in the chain → ClOrdID=3, OrigClOrdID=2, LeavesQty=60. > > > > If it does not then it will probably just return something simple like ClOrdID=1, LeavesQty=100 even though that is clearly not valid. > > > > > Hi, I referred to FIX order change matrices for this, but it is not quite clear, so I am turning to this forum. > > > > > > My question is what would be the response of Order Status request (35=H) in this scenario: > > > > > > 35=D, clOrdId=1, qty=100 → > > > Acked back, leavesQty=100 > > > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=2, origClOrdId=1, qty=80 → > > > Acked back, leavesQty=80 > > > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, qty=60 → > > > Acked back, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > Now If I send order status request with clOrdId=1, what will I get back? > > > Is it… > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > (or) > > > > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=1, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > or something else. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![paulradbone\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@paulradbone\_x](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/paulradbone_x)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/6 "2013-01-23T10:12:13Z")
I also agree with this. Although it does depends how your order management system works. If the client has accepted you ack to the last 35=G, then they should have the latest ClientOrderID, which is what they should use for the 35=H request. If the Client sends an invalid(old) ClOrdID, then it should be rejected with “unknown Order”. Paul. The clients order should > If you send 35=H|11=1 then there is a case for a reject if there is no order chaining logic on the other side. > > In my opinion you should always try to send the last 11 value in a 35=H message, this way there is a les of a chance of you getting what could be a duff response. > > > Replying 35=8|20=3|11=3 could be difficult for the client to know it is the reply to his request 35=H|11=1… > > > > Replying 35=8|20=3|11=1 could suggest the order 11=1 is still live… > > > > In my opinion we should reject the request 35=8|150=8|103=5 (unknown order [or 4 = too late to enter?]). > > > > > Well it should ideally be 35=H with ClOrdID=3 – there’s no telling what will happen if you reference ClOrdID=1 in 35=H when the latest value is ClOrdID=3. > > > > > > If the counterparty is able to support order chaining such that it recognizes that the ClOrdID value being referenced in the 35=H is stale but is actually part of an order chain then it should be able to give you the latest state of that order in the chain → ClOrdID=3, OrigClOrdID=2, LeavesQty=60. > > > > > > If it does not then it will probably just return something simple like ClOrdID=1, LeavesQty=100 even though that is clearly not valid. > > > > > > > Hi, I referred to FIX order change matrices for this, but it is not quite clear, so I am turning to this forum. > > > > > > > > My question is what would be the response of Order Status request (35=H) in this scenario: > > > > > > > > 35=D, clOrdId=1, qty=100 → > > > > Acked back, leavesQty=100 > > > > > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=2, origClOrdId=1, qty=80 → > > > > Acked back, leavesQty=80 > > > > > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, qty=60 → > > > > Acked back, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > > > Now If I send order status request with clOrdId=1, what will I get back? > > > > Is it… > > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > > > (or) > > > > > > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=1, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > > > or something else. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![adityakapur](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/forum.fixtrading.org/adityakapur/32/179_2.png) [@adityakapur](https://forum.fixtrading.org/u/adityakapur)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.fixtrading.org/t/working-of-order-status-request-35-h/11444/7 "2013-01-23T21:02:38Z")
One more reason to go with something like Order Mass Status 🙂 > I also agree with this. Although it does depends how your order management system works. > > If the client has accepted you ack to the last 35=G, then they should have the latest ClientOrderID, which is what they should use for the 35=H request. > > If the Client sends an invalid(old) ClOrdID, then it should be rejected with “unknown Order”. > > Paul. > > The clients order should > > > If you send 35=H|11=1 then there is a case for a reject if there is no order chaining logic on the other side. > > > > In my opinion you should always try to send the last 11 value in a 35=H message, this way there is a les of a chance of you getting what could be a duff response. > > > > > Replying 35=8|20=3|11=3 could be difficult for the client to know it is the reply to his request 35=H|11=1… > > > > > > Replying 35=8|20=3|11=1 could suggest the order 11=1 is still live… > > > > > > In my opinion we should reject the request 35=8|150=8|103=5 (unknown order [or 4 = too late to enter?]). > > > > > > > Well it should ideally be 35=H with ClOrdID=3 – there’s no telling what will happen if you reference ClOrdID=1 in 35=H when the latest value is ClOrdID=3. > > > > > > > > If the counterparty is able to support order chaining such that it recognizes that the ClOrdID value being referenced in the 35=H is stale but is actually part of an order chain then it should be able to give you the latest state of that order in the chain → ClOrdID=3, OrigClOrdID=2, LeavesQty=60. > > > > > > > > If it does not then it will probably just return something simple like ClOrdID=1, LeavesQty=100 even though that is clearly not valid. > > > > > > > > > Hi, I referred to FIX order change matrices for this, but it is not quite clear, so I am turning to this forum. > > > > > > > > > > My question is what would be the response of Order Status request (35=H) in this scenario: > > > > > > > > > > 35=D, clOrdId=1, qty=100 → > > > > > Acked back, leavesQty=100 > > > > > > > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=2, origClOrdId=1, qty=80 → > > > > > Acked back, leavesQty=80 > > > > > > > > > > 35=G, clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, qty=60 → > > > > > Acked back, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > > > > > Now If I send order status request with clOrdId=1, what will I get back? > > > > > Is it… > > > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=2, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > > > > > (or) > > > > > > > > > > clOrdId=3, origClOrdId=1, leavesQty=60 > > > > > > > > > > or something else. Thanks